[Summary courtesy of Riverside's AI]: In this conversation, Ben and Casey discuss various topics including Casey's recent media appearances, the future of independent journalism, the use of hallucinogens by young people, the impact of social media on kids, and the trend of tweens experimenting with...

[Summary courtesy of Riverside's AI]: In this conversation, Ben and Casey discuss various topics including Casey's recent media appearances, the future of independent journalism, the use of hallucinogens by young people, the impact of social media on kids, and the trend of tweens experimenting with skincare. They also touch on the debate around parenting styles and the creation of new media vehicles for young people. They discuss the success of young media publications like Byline and the potential for reimagining print magazines for the digital age. They also explore the fascination with Gen Z's adoption of Nirvana and the evolving definition of 'preppy' among young people. Casey shares her plans for the future of afterschool, including talking to more young people and potentially offering a trend report or distillation of her newsletter. Ben expresses his support for Casey's work and offers to help in any way he can. Sound Bites "I could say something that could get me canceled or be the talk of the internet in this moment." "The state and future of media is not as bleak as we see with Vice and Complex." "Young people are actually doing mushrooms and ketamine." "They didn't grow up in these sort of antiquated, Conde Nast orbit." "There's something really interesting about print in this, another thing that I have in front of me, not for the purposes of this conversation, but I like have all these teen magazines around me always." "I could imagine a version of, uh, afterschool behind the second paywall where you're quizzing people on developments of the week." Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Casey's Recent News 01:18 The Future of Independent Journalism 06:36 Debunking the Smartphone Panic 12:04 The Rise of Tween Skincare 23:07 The Success of Young Media Publications 24:30 Reimagining Print Magazines for the Digital Age 25:29 Gen Z's Adoption of Nirvana and the Evolving Definition of 'Preppy' 37:10 The Future of afterschool: Talking to Young People and Trend Reports 40:06 Supporting Casey's Work and Future Endeavors